Urgency of Change • The Krishnamurti Podcast

Krishnamurti with Iris Murdoch (first conversation)

First conversation with Iris Murdoch: There is no love where there is self-interest.

Iris Murdoch was a well-known novelist and philosopher. Her books explore themes such as good and evil, morality, and the power of the unconscious. They emphasise the inner lives of individuals, in the tradition of Dostoyevski and Tolstoy, whilst her philosophical works reinterpret Aristotle and Plato.

In this first conversation, Krishnamurti and Iris Murdoch inquire into love, discovering that love is not desire or pleasure; love is not the opposite of hate; love has no relationship to jealousy; and that love can never bring conflict.

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Ross Saunders Interview

Krishnamurti Interviewed by Ross Saunders. This interview was recorded for the Australian television show ‘This Day Tonight’. The programme is half an hour long and was recorded in 1970.

Describing the interview in her diary, Mary Zimbalist, Krishnamurti’s assistant, said that Krishnamurti ‘demolished belief and religion then went on with such fresh clarity until the end of the half hour, covering a great deal with simplicity and eloquence.’

Questions explored include: Is it possible for a mind to be free from yesterday and from belief? How can an individual, who is part of the system, get outside the system in order to observe it and himself? Do the younger generation have a thirst for awareness and self-knowledge? You have been critical of religions. Could you tell me your own particular outlook on religion? What do you make of death? More than 40 years after you dissolved the Order of the Star, how would you summarise your aims?

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The Future of Humanity with David Bohm (Part 2)

The second and final part of The Future Of Humanity explores whether there is evolution of consciousness. Can the consciousness of mankind be changed through time? Is psychological conditioning centred in the self? Can our conditioned brain cells change? The pair then inquire into the relationship between the mind and the brain, suggesting that as long as the brain is conditioned, its relationship to the mind is limited. The then look at perception and intelligence. 

David Bohm has been described as one of the most significant theoretical physicists of the 20th century and was a fellow of the royal society. He worked with Einstein at the Institute for Advanced Study, and on the Manhattan Project with Oppenheimer. Later he pioneered research into quantum physics and models of the brain, being increasingly interested in consciousness, order and thought. His books include Wholeness and the Implicate Order, Science, Order and Creativity, and Causation and Chance in Modern Physics.

Bohm’s contact with Krishnamurti began in the early 60s and continued into the 80s. Their dialogues are far-reaching and profound. Over 30 audios or videos are available on our YouTube channel at https://bit.ly/2EfqsCU, and are published in the books Truth and Actuality, The Transformation of Man, and The Ending of Time. Recorded in 1983, The Future of Humanity represents Bohm’s and Krishnamurti’s final dialogues together.

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The Future of Humanity with David Bohm (Part 1)

Part 1 of The Future of Humanity asks: what is the future of mankind? The pair discuss how our psychological problems are the result of thought, since thought breeds conflict. We think that thought can solve our problems but is this true? They look at how the self is put together by thought and whether our consciousness is individual to each of us, or inseparable, a consciousness of humanity. It is clear that dividing the world into countries and religions creates havoc, but is our very sense of self divisive? Why does division exist at all?

David Bohm has been described as one of the most significant theoretical physicists of the 20th century and was a fellow of the royal society. He worked with Einstein at the Institute for Advanced Study, and on the Manhattan Project with Oppenheimer. Later he pioneered research into quantum physics and models of the brain, being increasingly interested in consciousness, order and thought. His books include Wholeness and the Implicate Order, Science, Order and Creativity, and Causation and Chance in Modern Physics.

Bohm’s contact with Krishnamurti began in the early 60s and continued into the 80s. Their dialogues are far-reaching and profound. Over 30 audios or videos are available on our YouTube channel at https://bit.ly/2EfqsCU, and are published in the books Truth and Actuality, The Transformation of Man, and The Ending of Time. Recorded in 1983, The Future of Humanityrepresents Bohm’s and Krishnamurti’s final dialogues together.

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Commentaries on Living read by Terence Stamp (Part 2)

Commentaries on Living is one of Krishnamurti’s most well-known and best loved books. In it, he recalls many of the private conversations with those who came to see him. With encouragement from Aldous Huxley these meetings were written down by Krishnamurti and published in 1956.

Terence Stamp is an Oscar-nominated actor. It was through working with Fellini that he met and became friends with Krishnamurti, who, in Stamp’s words, ‘used his presence to pause my thinking.’ Thanks to the Karina Library in Ojai, California for these recordings.

Chapters included in this episode are Continuity, Awareness, Loneliness, and Silence.

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Commentaries on Living read by Terence Stamp (Part 1)

Commentaries on Living is one of Krishnamurti’s most well-known and best loved books. In it, he recalls many of the private conversations with those who came to see him. With encouragement from Aldous Huxley these meetings were written down by Krishnamurti and published in 1956.

Terence Stamp is an Oscar-nominated actor. It was through working with Fellini that he met and became friends with Krishnamurti, who, in Stamp’s words, ‘used his presence to pause my thinking.’ Thanks to the Karina Library in Ojai, California for these recordings.

Chapters included in this episode are Fulfilment, Thought and Love, Simplicity of the Heart, The Self, and Psychological Security.

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